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05.08.03

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Das Schlagwort "Wer heilt hat Recht" wird schon seit der Zeit des Auseinanderdriftens von akademischer Medizin und Paramedizin verwendet, um quasi per einfacher Empirie zu beweisen, dass auch nicht anerkannte Methoden erfolgreich sein können. Dennoch ist dieses Schlagwort an entscheidender Stelle aussagearm: Wer ist es denn, der heilt? Ist es der Behandler, der Kranke selbst oder sogar weitere Instanzen, die uns unbekannt sind?
Auch fragt es sich, ob es nur darum geht Recht zu bekommen, wenn eine Behandlung, wie auch immer, erfolgreich war.
In meinen bisherigen Beiträgen in diesem Blog habe ich versucht, die drei bisher bekannten Erklärungsmuster für paramedizinisches Heilen darzustellen.

Die Magnettherapie ist ein akademisch nicht anerkanntes Heilverfahren. Sie ist deshalb nicht anerkannt, weil ihre Wirkungsweise unklar ist und die bisher erfolgten wenigen Doppelblindstudien methodisch nicht korrekt durchgeführt wurden. Weitere Doppelblindstudien werden nicht gemacht, da offenbar kein Interesse besteht.

Die Selbsthilfemethode des New Thought appelliert an die Selbstheilungskräfte, die jeder Mensch in sich tragen soll. New Thought erfordert ein Umdenken, weg von Krankheit und Mangel und hin zu einem ursprünglichen Zustand von Ganzheit und Fülle. Es ist ein innerer Diskurs, den jeder vernünftige Mensch mit sich führen kann, unter der Voraussetzung, dass er die Existenz eines höchsten Gutes akzeptiert.

New Thought stellt das Individuum in den Mittelpunkt der Handlung, kommt jedoch nicht ohne Transzendenzaspekte aus. Die religiösen Heilweisen hingegen sind fest in der Transzendenz verankert. Von einer höchsten Instanz, sei es ein persönlicher Gott oder eine allwirkende Natur, fliessen Kräfte in und durch den Menschen. Der Erkrankte kann an diese Kräfte appellieren und dadurch Heilung erfahren. Transzendente Heilung kommt anscheinend nicht ohne ein Autoritätsprinzip aus, dem sich das Individuum annähern oder sogar unterwerfen muss. Transzendente Heilweisen sind deshalb für Missbrauch verstärkt anfällig. James Padgett und sein christlicher Spiritismus repräsentiert das liberale und am wenigsten autoritäre System religiösen Heilens. Gerade deshalb habe ich Padgett in diesem Blog besprochen.

Über paramedizinisches Heilen zu berichten, seine Chancen und Gefahren offen darzustellen, ist ein legitimes Verfahren der Information und Meinungsbildung.

Posted by Robert Berghausen at 05.08.03 09:54
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Hallo Robert,

wer heilt? OK, das ist eine Frage. Noch eine Frage: heilt wer? Ich meine: Gibt es denn eine Heilung? "Wer heilt hat recht" ist der Standardspruch der alternativen Medizin, wenn wieder mal eine Studie daneben gegangen ist.

Wenn es Heilung gibt durch eine Therapie gibt, muß man sie auch "erwischen" können, Heilung muß dann auch durch "harte" wissenschaftliche Methoden nachweisbar sein. Du sprichst es an für die Magnettherapie, hier ist es methodisch schlecht gelaufen, aber warum bloß läuft es immer, immer so schlecht bei alternativen Therapien? Ich glaube, dass vieles da wirklich einfach nicht funktioniert, da heilt eben niemand.

Davon ab: Dieselbe Debatte wird in der Schulmedizin natürlich auch geführt; das politische Geschiebe um Positiv-Listen geht genau um dieselbe Frage: Tragen all die teuren Medikamente wirklich zur Heilung bei oder sollen die Kassen nur die bezahlen, bei denen das wirklich nachgewiesen ist? Und es ist bei vielen schlicht nicht nachgewiesen. (Ich habe da Studien gesehen, wo irgendwelche Hausärzte mal probeweise ein paar Patienten benutzt und Menscheversuche auf Honorar gestartet haben...) Jedenfalls ist der Standard-Aufschrei gegen die Positivliste: "Hier gehts um therapeutische Freiheit" - das heißt doch wohl: Wer möglicherweise heilt, hat möglicherweise recht...

Aber auch davon ab: Wenn niemand irgendeiner Idee oder Gefühl nachgegangen wäre "dass da was ist", wäre nie je ein Medikament oder Heilmethode gefunden worden. Das heißt, man muß auch Dinge zulassen, die "unbewiesen" sind. Aber eine Methode, die 200 (oder 20) Jahre alt ist, sollte doch wohl langsam mal ein bischen einen Nachweis und Erklärungen liefern können, ohne noch in Paradingsbums-Gewölk abzuschwirren. In meiner Heilprakraktiker-Zeit ist mir diese "Wer heilt hat recht"-Ausflucht doch schon ziemlich auf die Nerven gegangen.

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Ich stimme Dir zu. Die Vermarktung der Alternativmedizin unterscheidet sich nicht von der sog. Schulmedizin. Die von mir favorisierte neue Magnettherapie hätte eine fachlich saubere Blindstudie schon verdient. Alex Chiu, der schrille Promotor dieser Therapieform in den USA, hat ja einen weltweiten Grossversuch inszeniert, indem er kurz und knapp das Arbeitsprinzip beschrieb und gleich eine Bauanleitung für sein System mitlieferte. Man kann die Zahl der Anwender nur schätzen. Vermutlich sind es einige Tausend. Berichtet wird in einem offenen Forum, das völlig unzensiert ist. Die Erfolgsquote ist weitaus höher als der Paceboeffekt. Ich kann dies auch aus dem eigenen Bereich bestätigen.
Das ganze schreit geradezu nach einer Falsifizierung durch eine grosse Doppel-Blindstudie. Doch wer hat daran ein Interesse? Noch nicht einmal die Heilpraktiker, denn Magnettherapie ist weitgehend Selbsthilfe. Die Firmen, die sich bislang mit Armbändern und Magnetdecken eine magnetische Nase verdient haben, winken auch enerviert ab. Eine Therapie, die nur zwei kleine Magnete(das Stück für 50 Cent) benötigt, damit ist kein Geschäft zu machen.
Alex Chiu hat dieses Spiel in den USA schon einmal durchgespielt. Zuletzt wollte ihm die Gesundheitsaufsicht, die FDA, den Laden dicht machen, weil er unerlaubt heilt. Daraufhin ging er radikal und bewusst chaotisch in die Öffentlichkeit, nur um weltweit auf sich aufmerksam zu machen. Werbestrategisch war dies ein Erfolg. So wie es derzeit aussieht, hat sich die neue Magnettherapie auf allen Kontinenten rumgesprochen. Insbesondere in den armen Ländern macht man sich Hoffnung auf ein billiges und effektives Heilmittel.
Ich bin sehr gespannt, wie sich dasProjekt entwickelt. Mit Hilfe des Internet und speziell der Blog-Szene lässt sich ein neuer Gedanke schnellstens in die Öffentlichkeit bringen und der Kritik aussetzen. Die Testung findet also im chaotischen Grossversuch statt. Ende offen.

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